Scan&Solve™ for Rhino is a new plugin from Intact Solutions that completely automates basic structural testing of Rhino solids. No simplification, healing, translating, or meshing is needed. Depending on complexity of your shape and chosen resolution, you may need to wait for a few minutes, but the results are worth the wait!
Simply pick the material, choose restraints and specify loads on the faces of the solid model:
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Hit the go button to see the predicted performance (strength, weakness) of your shape:
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That load distribution probably works for a propeller as the tips move faster than the root, but how would I apply a pressure to one side of the propeller only, as would be appropriate for a simple wing?
Thanks; i already know the spanwise loading, which scales with the local airfoil chord on an elliptical planform wing. A uniform load overestimates the bend moment at the root. I would like to scale the local load to the local chord or surface area.
Thats pretty much what I did with a spreadsheet to estimate the bend on my wing. I am not modeling a propeller. It might be possible to split the face and apply a pressure to only one side, which is probably the closest approxation available in scan and solve.
Karl Witt
That load distribution probably works for a propeller as the tips move faster than the root, but how would I apply a pressure to one side of the propeller only, as would be appropriate for a simple wing?
Apr 27, 2012
Bob Johansson
HI:
I think the answer to the pressure distribution is it depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
Designers often simplify things to accomplish their work. A simple linear pressure distribution,
if the magnitude was correct, would allow a designer to determine if a propeller was strong enough to
do its job. He would be treating the propeller blades as a cantilever.
If you wanted to determine what the pressure ditribution actually looked like I beleive you would need
to use computational fluid dynamics or do physical testing and take meaurements. The are handbooks
with standard airfoils and hydrofoils avaiable which provide the pressure distribution for the standard
cross sections.
Thx,
Bob
Apr 27, 2012
Bob Johansson
This is the drag on an immersed body. F = (CD) * (1/2 * rho * V^2*A).
Apr 27, 2012
Karl Witt
Apr 27, 2012
Bob Johansson
Hi:
The load distibution looks like it parabolic, since the tangential velocity of the propeller is
directy propotional to the radius or distance from the hub; and the applied thrust force and
drag is proportional to the velocity squared.
Scan and Solve has a hydrostatic load condition but nothing that would apply a parabolic load
distribution.
If version 1.6 of Scan and Solve allows scripts to be written; maybe, a script for parabolic load distibution could be written.
Apr 27, 2012
Bob Johansson
Without a way to apply a uniform paraboloic load distibution along the
length of the propeller vane I would break the propeller up into sections
along its length using split lines. Then I would calculate the load at the center
of each area according to its tangential velocity, planar area and coefficient for
drag or thrust.
The smaller the area, the better my approximation would be for the actual load distibution.
Apr 27, 2012
Bob Johansson
A propeller blade is divided into sections and each section is analysed
according to its cross sectional shape. To be accurate on the analysis you
will have to determine the thrust coefficient for each section, and from that you can
figure out the force on respective sections.
Apr 28, 2012
Bob Johansson
Apr 28, 2012
Karl Witt
Apr 29, 2012
Bob Johansson
There is alot of freeware for propller and wing design available.
I will upload some software which might help you determine
Cd and Cl for each wing section and hence the applicable forces.
Rhino has a "Split line" command. It works great.
Apr 29, 2012
Bob Johansson
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/FoilSim/index.html
Apr 29, 2012